I am becoming a hardened Clinton supporter, one who might refuse to vote for Obama in November. Here's hoping my husband can pull me back from the ledge.
This from the person who told this Obama-backing Republican that she'd support the chosen Democratic nominee?
I can understand, I suppose, that for those who feel their "difference" from mainstream white male-ism was or wasn't served by this bizarre contest would be frustrated by this outcome. This quote said it all, for me:
"Shanika Johnson, 24, stood in front of Bill Clinton’s Harlem office on 125th Street with a copy of Malcolm X’s autobiography under her arm and talk of black pride and feminism on her lips. Shanika Johnson in Harlem“We’ll settle for a man,” said Shanika Johnson outside Bill Clinton’s office in Harlem.
“It’s a great symbol for our people, for the African American race,” Ms. Johnson said. “We’ve never had anyone clinch. It would’ve been great if it had been Shirley Chisolm, but we’ll settle for a man.” (source, NYT. See:
http://tinyurl.com/4n9v5s )
It saddens me to see such a bitter reaction by so many Clinton directed to someone who just ran the race within the bizarre rules set forth by their own party and kept to the high road in their dealings with their opponents.
If you want to blame anyone, blame Mr. Bimbo Eruption for his ineptitude, almost as if he'd gone passive/aggressive in his wife's campaign (and the whole billionaire boy's club Air F(iretr)uck One business).
Me, I still want to see change effectuated upon the power structure of Washington. I would be deeply saddened were your wounded loyalties to your chosen candidate were to allow the perpetuation of the old, rich and connected Washington status quo win in November.
As in, you would refuse to vote at all? When Bush won by such a tiny margin, and effected such a complete downturn in our nation's fortunes?
I dunno... it seems to me a non-vote is almost a vote for Rebublicans. Someone's gotta keep the fear-mongerers out of the white house, even if it's putting someone in who's not your favorite.
I'm worried this will come across as disingenuous (which is not how it's meant at all...), but I am so curious as to what has caused you to make such a 180. Something recent? Something that's been building over time?
If Darren needs any help over the next 5 months pulling you back, there are plenty of willing hands! Just listen to a few more of McCain's speeches... if that doesn't sway you, maybe there's no hope!! ;)
The operative word was "might". It's the grief talking mostly.
Oddly, it has nothing to do with Obama. He will do a fantastic job and he has my support. After listening to both speeches last night, I thought both Clinton and Obama did fairly decent jobs of applauding the efforts of the other. My disappointment is really directed at the plethora of Obama supporters who continue to bash Clinton. I find it disheartening that Obama was able to say so many nice things about Clinton while his supporters continue to demonize her. As if she represents everything that is wrong with our system. She, alone, is ruining the party. It'll be HER FAULT should Obama fail to win the White House in the fall. BS, is what I say.
I definitely recognize your pain in that respect. I do think that she has been demonized all around, by McCain and Obama supporters alike, as well as the media and the pundits and.... I could go on and on. But I also do feel that her speech last night did little to help anything. I thought she was very self-serving, when I honestly have felt all along that she had the party's and the nation's best interests at heart before. While she has every right to look out for herself and to "get her ducks in a row" as far as her political future is concerned, I think it's unfair of her to act as if she is still campaigning and to keep the idea alive that she might carry the fight to Denver, whether those are her intentions or not.
I truly believe that it will take a huge calamity for Obama to lose in November... something much bigger than can be blamed on Clinton. Judging by the crowd's reaction at his speech last night, she's got some fans amongst his supporters as well.
Would you support the idea of her serving as VP? Seems like that chance is growing slimmer by the hour, but who knows! 'Tis all very interesting.
I think whatever Obama supporters there are bashing Clinton just show how much more mature he is that some give him credit for. He's been nothing but gracious and attempts to impart that sense of decency on others. That others, even those in his own camp, fail to meet that standard just reaffirms his claim to a good moral compass.
If nothing else, that's so non-Washington-esque as to reaffirm my sense that he'll toss aside the old, partisan ways.
A) not being to communicate privately without resorting to encryption technology (thanks GWB and the bloody Ft. GGMeade crowd)
B) Being able to do anything or say anything with the expectation of freakin' [F(iretr)uck language deftly avoided for your rating's sake) privacy.
C) Middle finmger extended to nanny filters everywhere, as in, "Nanny THIS!"
[Lastly: before you cast your valuable vote, consider that John, dough-boy-faced McCain would continue GWB's assault on the constitution, listen to this and possibly attempt to interfere with the votes of "terrorist sympathetic morons who oppose the gummint's right to hear what yer sayin"]
Angry about the Right (how'd they win that race to handedness, anywho?) You betcha. Why do you think Republican Boy was a defector.
Still happy with voting for Nader or Hillary (as a write-in)?
You may now, apparently, begin the grieving process in earnest:
http://tinyurl.com/5hm6nr
The process is here:
http://tinyurl.com/rtkvc
I'm sorry, for your sake and the interest (to weak a term... investment?) you had to Clinton's candidacy.
Please, when the time is right, think carefully about putting that cancer-ridden right-wing dolt into 1600 Pennsyltucky Ave. instead of Obama. Your choice, our future.
I'm probably a little late here, but I just want to say, as an Obama supporter, that I was a little surprised by the media's reaction to Clinton's speech last night. It did kind of sound like a campaign speech, and she didn't concede and endorse Obama, but I guess I didn't see any reason to take any offense to it. Then the super expert analysts came on and went nuts like she had stabbed him in the back or something. I was a little taken aback by the universally over-the-top reaction to it.
Anyhow, I can understand how you would say, right now, that you might not vote. Rumor has it that you might have heard me utter something similar a couple months ago, following an "if she wins..." But of course, when it came down to it, I would have voted for Clinton. And I trust that when it comes down to it, you'll vote for Obama. Because the alternative isn't much of an alternative.
Also, McCain is really starting to creep me out with his ill-timed smiles. He'll say something like, "Barrack Obama eats babies," and then flash this crazy grin, like he's getting portraits taken or something. It's unnerving. I can't put up with four years of that. So please, help me avoid the crazy grins and vote for Obama.
I don't agree that Obama has taken the high road. Looking over his campaign, there are many times when he could have taken the high road but instead he chose to be flippant or disparaging or sexist. Since Clinton acted in the same manner, it's a wash for me.
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Do you think she'll run on the ticket with him? Or are their opinions really that different?
This from the person who told this Obama-backing Republican that she'd support the chosen Democratic nominee?
I can understand, I suppose, that for those who feel their "difference" from mainstream white male-ism was or wasn't served by this bizarre contest would be frustrated by this outcome. This quote said it all, for me:
"Shanika Johnson, 24, stood in front of Bill Clinton’s Harlem office on 125th Street with a copy of Malcolm X’s autobiography under her arm and talk of black pride and feminism on her lips.
Shanika Johnson in Harlem“We’ll settle for a man,” said Shanika Johnson outside Bill Clinton’s office in Harlem.
“It’s a great symbol for our people, for the African American race,” Ms. Johnson said. “We’ve never had anyone clinch. It would’ve been great if it had been Shirley Chisolm, but we’ll settle for a man.” (source, NYT. See:
http://tinyurl.com/4n9v5s )
It saddens me to see such a bitter reaction by so many Clinton directed to someone who just ran the race within the bizarre rules set forth by their own party and kept to the high road in their dealings with their opponents.
If you want to blame anyone, blame Mr. Bimbo Eruption for his ineptitude, almost as if he'd gone
passive/aggressive in his wife's campaign (and the whole billionaire boy's club Air F(iretr)uck One business).
Me, I still want to see change effectuated upon the power structure of Washington. I would be deeply saddened were your wounded loyalties to your chosen candidate were to allow the perpetuation of the old, rich and connected Washington status quo win in November.
Nose, face, spite, no?
Whoa -- not my most coherent post.
Maybe a little more caffeine before I type at 06 dark in the A&M.
As in, you would refuse to vote at all? When Bush won by such a tiny margin, and effected such a complete downturn in our nation's fortunes?
I dunno... it seems to me a non-vote is almost a vote for Rebublicans. Someone's gotta keep the fear-mongerers out of the white house, even if it's putting someone in who's not your favorite.
I'm worried this will come across as disingenuous (which is not how it's meant at all...), but I am so curious as to what has caused you to make such a 180. Something recent? Something that's been building over time?
If Darren needs any help over the next 5 months pulling you back, there are plenty of willing hands! Just listen to a few more of McCain's speeches... if that doesn't sway you, maybe there's no hope!! ;)
The operative word was "might". It's the grief talking mostly.
Oddly, it has nothing to do with Obama. He will do a fantastic job and he has my support. After listening to both speeches last night, I thought both Clinton and Obama did fairly decent jobs of applauding the efforts of the other. My disappointment is really directed at the plethora of Obama supporters who continue to bash Clinton. I find it disheartening that Obama was able to say so many nice things about Clinton while his supporters continue to demonize her. As if she represents everything that is wrong with our system. She, alone, is ruining the party. It'll be HER FAULT should Obama fail to win the White House in the fall. BS, is what I say.
I definitely recognize your pain in that respect. I do think that she has been demonized all around, by McCain and Obama supporters alike, as well as the media and the pundits and.... I could go on and on. But I also do feel that her speech last night did little to help anything. I thought she was very self-serving, when I honestly have felt all along that she had the party's and the nation's best interests at heart before. While she has every right to look out for herself and to "get her ducks in a row" as far as her political future is concerned, I think it's unfair of her to act as if she is still campaigning and to keep the idea alive that she might carry the fight to Denver, whether those are her intentions or not.
I truly believe that it will take a huge calamity for Obama to lose in November... something much bigger than can be blamed on Clinton. Judging by the crowd's reaction at his speech last night, she's got some fans amongst his supporters as well.
Would you support the idea of her serving as VP? Seems like that chance is growing slimmer by the hour, but who knows! 'Tis all very interesting.
I think whatever Obama supporters there are bashing Clinton just show how much more mature he is that some give him credit for. He's been nothing but gracious and attempts to impart that sense of decency on others. That others, even those in his own camp, fail to meet that standard just reaffirms his claim to a good moral compass.
If nothing else, that's so non-Washington-esque as to reaffirm my sense that he'll toss aside the old, partisan ways.
I truly miss:
A) not being to communicate privately without resorting to encryption technology (thanks GWB and the bloody Ft. GGMeade crowd)
B) Being able to do anything or say anything with the expectation of freakin' [F(iretr)uck language deftly avoided for your rating's sake) privacy.
C) Middle finmger extended to nanny filters everywhere, as in, "Nanny THIS!"
[Lastly: before you cast your valuable vote, consider that John, dough-boy-faced McCain would continue GWB's assault on the constitution, listen to this and possibly attempt to interfere with the votes of "terrorist sympathetic morons who oppose the gummint's right to hear what yer sayin"]
Angry about the Right (how'd they win that race to handedness, anywho?) You betcha. Why do you think Republican Boy was a defector.
Still happy with voting for Nader or Hillary (as a write-in)?
Sorry -- I'm in a pissy mood today.
Christie -
Don't be a loon.
Love,
Your Husband.
You may now, apparently, begin the grieving process in earnest:
http://tinyurl.com/5hm6nr
The process is here:
http://tinyurl.com/rtkvc
I'm sorry, for your sake and the interest (to weak a term... investment?) you had to Clinton's candidacy.
Please, when the time is right, think carefully about putting that cancer-ridden right-wing dolt into 1600 Pennsyltucky Ave. instead of Obama. Your choice, our future.
I'm probably a little late here, but I just want to say, as an Obama supporter, that I was a little surprised by the media's reaction to Clinton's speech last night. It did kind of sound like a campaign speech, and she didn't concede and endorse Obama, but I guess I didn't see any reason to take any offense to it. Then the super expert analysts came on and went nuts like she had stabbed him in the back or something. I was a little taken aback by the universally over-the-top reaction to it.
Anyhow, I can understand how you would say, right now, that you might not vote. Rumor has it that you might have heard me utter something similar a couple months ago, following an "if she wins..." But of course, when it came down to it, I would have voted for Clinton. And I trust that when it comes down to it, you'll vote for Obama. Because the alternative isn't much of an alternative.
Also, McCain is really starting to creep me out with his ill-timed smiles. He'll say something like, "Barrack Obama eats babies," and then flash this crazy grin, like he's getting portraits taken or something. It's unnerving. I can't put up with four years of that. So please, help me avoid the crazy grins and vote for Obama.
I don't agree that Obama has taken the high road. Looking over his campaign, there are many times when he could have taken the high road but instead he chose to be flippant or disparaging or sexist. Since Clinton acted in the same manner, it's a wash for me.
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